In basic, the mouseover on the left side of the start menu is the same image that is used for hot pressed for the icons in explorer.

Is there a way to seperate these images, preferably have the start menu places list mouseover it's own seperate image? Or even use the one that is used by the Aero start menu?

Abusing the test feature

Fonts, Colors & System Metrics -> Fonts and System Metrics -> BTNHIGHLIGHT:COLOR

I think that the menubar is managed by the .msstyle and the hex, which I don't know anthing about.

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I think I've found the problem.

I noticed that the main title in the bottom shell was the correct size while everything else was different. The title in the bottom shell is linked to the Icon Font in hex.

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The title has this attribute in the shellstyle's 1.txt:
fontsize="sysmetric(DSM_ICONFONTSIZE)"
fontweight="sysmetric(DSM_ICONFONTWEIGHT)"
fontstyle="sysmetric(DSM_ICONFONTSTYLE)"
fontface="sysmetricstr(DSMS_ICONFONTFACE)"

I found the Favorite Links header text which is linked to "bodytext" in the hex. The Favorite Links header has this attribute in shellstyle's 1.txt:
font="gtf(TEXTSTYLE, TEXT_BODYTEXT, 0)"

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So for the test, I replaced font="gtf(TEXTSTYLE, TEXT_BODYTEXT, 0)"

with this

fontsize="sysmetric(DSM_ICONFONTSIZE)"
fontweight="sysmetric(DSM_ICONFONTWEIGHT)"
fontstyle="sysmetric(DSM_ICONFONTSTYLE)"
fontface="sysmetricstr(DSMS_ICONFONTFACE)"

for the Favorite Links header.

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And it worked. The Favorite Links header is now showing the correct font size.

There are alot of instances where the font="gtf(TEXTSTYLE, TEXT_BODYTEXT, 0)" appears. I am currently replacing all of them to see if it fixes the top shell and the rest of the bottom shell.

Again, I've only noticed this on fonts 7px and below so it may not affect you.

I noticed that having fonts smaller than 8pt on anything related to the shellstyle (Favorite Links header, top and bottom shell) the font shrinks and gets distorted. Any idea why?

Check your Sizing Margins for them.

Change the data to whatever you want

1. This may help http://http://www.vistastylebuilder.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=68

2. If it shows up correctly other than that preview box (like in Explorer or Firefox, ect.) I wouldn't stress it. That same exact spot in the Control Preview shows up glitchy for me also, but works fine in windows.


3. No idea.

That's all?

If so, then you are a saviour.

I'll try right away and post back.

EDIT:
Well, that worked magnificent! A lot easier than I thought it would be. Thanks many!

With VSB, is it possible to remove the Aero option and leave only the Basic style? I guess like what PsycoB did with his.

How do you apply UK's Titlebar Mod in VSB?

Or better yet, can there be a Stylehack for it?

You need to edit the image associated with the left pane and "draw" the white portion higher. I would say, but I'm on a different OS right now and I'm sure you could find it.

Thanks guys. Will try them out later

Okay, I disabled User Pic and chose the 34px border on the top stylehack to get it working.

It decreased the space on the right.

Any ideas how to shrink these two spaces?

I know there are style hacks that expand the top left hand side to match the top right hand side, but there is still the blank area above the start menu.

I'm trying to pretty much get rid of the dead space on top of the start menu while having the items on the left and right line up with each other. ( I'm trying to keep things "stocken blocken")

Here's a screenshot showing what I mean.

Any ideas?

Glad I could help, but there are alot of other areas that have this spot that I haven't found yet.

Works great now. Thanks  

Having issues with the new version.

I uninstalled the original version. Then I installed the new version.

I loaded my style with VSB, made a minor change (a font change on the window header), then selected to test it. It did the usual loading and showed the control preview window as usual. But, it didn't really apply any changes. It even still loads the custom shell that I have with my style (as if it didn't really load anything or even reload the style as there wasn't the usual flicker of the screen).

I figured that maybe I had to save the style with the newer version to continue working with it. I saved the style with the newer version and it came up an error about saving it. By this time it reverted to Aero, so I clicked the save button again and it saved.

Then, when I opened the Appearance properties window to load my style. Now, whenever I click on the style from the list of themes, it crashes the "Run32.dll" (if I remember correctly).

I kept the original version of VSB and made a backup of my style before opening it with the 1.1 update version, so no worries there.

I also tried the transitiondurations:intlist property on the favorite links mouseover image (489) and after about 3 seconds of mousing over to see what happened, the dragging did stop and was snappier but it caused explorer to crash.

- Idas

To change the text color on the menu bar with mouseover, try this http://http://www.vistastylebuilder.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=33

Great

Browseui.dll

Windows\System32

It's not in the .msstyle, unfortunately.

Seems to affect the Start Menu's shutdown pop up window, also.

I've noticed since saving my style in VSB for the first time, that the mouseover item in the favorite links panel is very slow at moving around. It's very sluggish.

Other people I've asked about this have said the same.

Is there any fix for this?

Solved: http://http://www.vistastylebuilder.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=33

I found the Control Panel/Window Color and Appearance

Explorer & Shell>Explorer>Control Panel>LARGECOMMANDAREA

Looking for these gray panels outlined in pink. They are all over the place, but these are just the few I took shots of.

Try either:

Toolbars, Headers and Rebar > Rebar > NavBar > Basic > NonTopmost > Background

Or:

Explorer & Shell > Explorer > Explorer Bar > Rebar > Background

I'm pretty sure it's one of those images. Or both..

http://http://ukintel.deviantart.com/art/Vista-Image-Content-Margins-85806506

On PsycoB's latest style he noted in the description how to center the icons on a 22px taskbar through hex. Luckily, I did that manually before I saved it in VSB. I'm not sure what it adjusts or how to translate it in VSB.

As far as the text shift on the taskbar, it only becomes off center on the active/pressed button. I'm guessing it's hardcoded because I don't think anyone ever figured it out in XP either.

That would be a great mod.

That would be great. But, my knowledge of something like that is very limited.

Thanks. Guess I'll have to ignore it or change the shell.

One of the most annoying problems, I'm sure most will agree.



I'm sure that this txt color isn't in the shellstyle. Any ideas where it is? And will the text color change affect any other areas of Vista?

Im not sure if it is in VSB...

but I know you can change it through editing the UIFILE in the shellstyle.

Look in UKIntel's Hex Editing tutorial towards the end.

Well, posting how you did it would help others instead of leaving your post hanging like that.

So when I have been testing a style, I usually just close the "Control Preview" window and never paid it no mind. Well, just a while ago, I left it up and checked out the different tabs. I've got to admit this is more nifty than I thought. Especially the tab that shows sliders and progress bars. You have no idea how annoying it is to find a large folder and copy it somewhere just to test the progress bar. Or how annoying it is to try and find the sliders to test them.

Anyways, thanks for this feature.  

Trying to change Menu Bar text with normal/mouseover/pressed/ect.

Organize>Layout>Menu Bar

Yes, that's almost exactly how I was thinking. That solves my suggestion  

I don't want to start another topic for suggestions, so I'll just post them here as I go along and learn the program.

I just have one right now. (still learning this great tool)

Doing styles the old way (restorator or pe explorer) I have gotten used to viewing the images in a list that I am able to scroll down and find the right one.

I noticed that all the images are in submenus of menus, ect. (which, in itself, is a task to learn what they all mean). It would be nice to have a way to show all the images of the msstyle in one menu.

Not a necessity, because after time the menus and subs will be learnt, but having a list of images would help styling go alot faster for some.